[Scale-planning] Event Wifi Sponsored

SCALE Planning List scale-planning at lists.linuxfests.org
Sun Jun 19 07:35:27 PDT 2016


Hi Zach,

We'd love to have you on board. I see that you have signed up to the tech
list. That's a great place to start.

We sure can appreciate some new blood and a different perspective to the
networks at Scale.

Bala.
bala at socallinuxexpo.org

On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:34 PM, SCALE Planning List <
scale-planning at lists.linuxfests.org> wrote:

> Hey folks --
>
> I'm sitting out here on the periphery of this discussion (mainly because
> I'm more into the audio stuff :), but I did want to throw out some "scale"
> (haha) on the networking effort, since I was involved in a good portion of
> it this past year.
>
> It was interesting to me to see how it all came together, how the diagrams
> laid out everything, where the equipment was staged, etc. Clearly, someone
> spent a lot of time planning out things, right down to the length of
> specific cable runs needed in each room on each wall. There was a TON of
> networked gear to distribute and connect. Even if (for the moment) you
> discount the internet access points, there was still a lot of work going
> into cabling, devices, placement, testing, taping, replacing bad gear, etc.
> Add back in the connection of AP's and it was about double the effort I
> just mentioned.
>
> Zach, I love the idea of a vendor-supported internet option, but I would
> highly recommend that you talk to some of the folks who laid out gear last
> year and get their input to understand the tremendous work effort that went
> into this on the day before the event. I have huge respect for everyone who
> stuck it out into the wee hours of the morning just to make sure it worked
> the next day.
>
> I came in early on Wednesday to help out. I got there in the afternoon,
> and I worked until pretty much midnight (let's say, easily, 6 hours) just
> laying out the networking for the AP's (i.e., not including the cameras and
> pods). And I was one of a team of 6-8 people that night, I believe. Simply
> laying out the cabling took a while, and that's literally just laying all
> of it on the floor according to diagram. Then the AP's were placed and
> balanced, making sure that they were under chairs, that the matching
> network cables reached, that the correct ports were used, that they were
> near power outlets or extension cords, and so on. And finally -- what I
> think was the WORST part -- comes the taping down of the cabling and power
> conduits. That took 3-4 people another maybe 2-3 hours just for that one
> aspect. And dozens of gaff tape rolls. Tape was everywhere, including under
> moveable doors and panels, along walls, under chairs, across audio cables,
> on stages, etc.
>
> If I had to take an educated guess, I'd venture that the cabling and
> placement of AP's probably took 45-50 man hours. Not kidding. Most of us
> were also trained network admins, so this wasn't like pulling uneducated
> folks off the street; we knew what we were doing, and it still took that
> long. Your comment about "*All that needs to be done at the show is place
> and connect all of the hardware*" is what I'm referring to here: about 50
> hours of work for JUST THAT. Nothing else. :)
>
> So, while I applaud the enthusiasm and excitement (and especially the
> volunteerism!), please keep in mind that this one single aspect of the show
> is a HUGE undertaking. If you go into this and gain a sponsor, you're still
> going to need a big crew, extremely well-placed and planned diagrams, and
> an organized and inventoried stock of cabling and parts. I completely agree
> with Ilan on this -- your help is very welcome and appreciated, but please
> go into this knowing it's going to be a huge effort.
>
> Just my $0.02 anyhow.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruce Bergman
>
>
>
>
> On 2016-06-18 18:45, SCALE Planning List wrote:
>
> Hi Zach,
>
> Excited to see you're so passionate about building out the SCALE network.
> We'd love to have you on board on our volunteer team.  Lets sync up and
> come to consensus on a plan before reaching out to sponsors.  We have a
> great deal of hardware that we own already and we should get on the same
> page before we make external requests, especially since many of the
> hardware vendors sponsor us in other ways at the moment.
>
> I'll defer to the current Tech Chair, who is Bala,  on timing but lets
> schedule a meeting soon. We're just hitting the time of year where we'd
> normally kick off our event planning for 2017.
>
> I believe Bala is traveling this weekend, but I'll add you to the tech
> list shortly and we can continue discussing how you can best help the team.
>
> Thanks again for wanting to make scale awesome.
>
> Regards,
> Ilan
>
>
>
> Ilan Rabinovitch
> Conference Chair
> Southern California Linux Expo
> 877-831-2569 x110 Voice
> 818-442-1865 Mobile
> ilan at linuxfests.org Email
>
> ---
> Ask me about sponsorship and speaking opportunities at LinuxFests.org's
> upcoming events:
> DevOps Days SV -  June 24-25, 2016 - Mountain View, CA
> Texas Linux Fest - July 8-9, 2016, Austin TX
> SCALE 15x - March 2-5, 2017 - Pasadena, CA
>
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 3:50 PM, SCALE Planning List <
> scale-planning at lists.linuxfests.org> wrote:
>
>> Ok now I have a good idea of the size of the network and will go to the
>> two sponsors to make sure I have there buy in.
>> On Jun 18, 2016 6:49 PM, "SCALE Planning List" <
>> scale-planning at lists.linuxfests.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 18 Jun 2016, SCALE Planning List wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh and any documents of network layout from last year.
>>>
>>>
>>> mostly these only exist as paper copies. With all the resignations in
>>> Tech after last year (at least 4 significant contributers, including both
>>> Chairs), I am about the only one with even a reasonably good idea of how
>>> things were setup. Anything else would involve reverse engineering things
>>> from the configs. The better approach is to discuss what we want to do with
>>> the people interested in the design level of things (ideally in person, a
>>> whiteboard is really desirable for this sort of work), and then setup this
>>> year's plan from that.
>>>
>>> I believe that I am the only person left who had the router password for
>>> this least year, and I never logged into one.
>>>
>>> David Lang
>>>
>>> On Jun 18, 2016 4:35 PM, "SCALE Planning List" <
>>>> scale-planning at lists.linuxfests.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What type and speeds of 2016 internet connection?
>>>>>
>>>>> What type of APs used in 2016?
>>>>>
>>>>> How many concurrent connected devices were there during 2016?
>>>>>
>>>>> What was the cabling like? In ceiling, run along walls on the floor,
>>>>> pre-wired drops back to idf/mdf?
>>>>>
>>>>> What type of switches were used in 2016?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can I get a cad drawing/detailed floor layout of the location?
>>>>>
>>>>> Was the network used for things other than wifi and video recording,
>>>>> such
>>>>> as, vendors, registration desk, staff or anything else?
>>>>>
>>>>> What was the peak lan usage in mbps?
>>>>>
>>>>> Total cable length ran in 2016?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 4:25 PM, SCALE Planning List <
>>>>> scale-planning at lists.linuxfests.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Zach,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your interest in helping with SCALE's network and streaming
>>>>>> needs.  I'm coping a few folks that can help answer your questions,
>>>>>> and let
>>>>>> you know where planning stands for 2017 and 2018.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bala copied here is the interim tech chair, between him, David who
>>>>>> replied a little bit ago, and myself we  can help share our current
>>>>>> plans
>>>>>> and let you know where we might need help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In terms of streaming Michael Proctor, also copied here, leads our A/V
>>>>>> team which normally run our live streaming and session recordings.
>>>>>> They
>>>>>> record the sessions using IP cameras, and have most of the editing
>>>>>> automated via some software they've written. I'm sure they'd love a
>>>>>> hand
>>>>>> with either the automation tooling or staffing our cameras.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking forward to working with you on SCALE 15x.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Ilan Rabinovitch
>>>>>> Conference Chair
>>>>>> Southern California Linux Expo
>>>>>> 877-831-2569 x110 Voice
>>>>>> 818-442-1865 Mobile
>>>>>> ilan at linuxfests.org Email
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Ask me about sponsorship and speaking opportunities at
>>>>>> LinuxFests.org's
>>>>>> upcoming events:
>>>>>> DevOps Days SV -  June 24-25, 2016 - Mountain View, CA
>>>>>> Texas Linux Fest - July 8-9, 2016, Austin TX
>>>>>> SCALE 15x - March 2-5, 2017 - Pasadena, CA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 7:19 AM, SCALE Planning List <
>>>>>> scale-planning at lists.linuxfests.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can I get the contact info for Stu so I can ask some question of him?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 1:18 AM, SCALE Planning List <
>>>>>>> scale-planning at lists.linuxfests.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Jun 2016, SCALE Planning List wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope that this is the right place for this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have been asked to reach out the SCALE to see if you all are in
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> help with live streaming, event networking, Wifi or internet
>>>>>>>>> access. I
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> just finished up doing the South East Linux Fest (SELF) Wifi and
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> contacted by Ubiquiti (a hardware maker) and another company
>>>>>>>>> Altispeed
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.altispeed.com/> about sponsoring the networking needs
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> SCALE.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As an example of the event networking I have done, here is the
>>>>>>>>> post I
>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>> about the SELF2016 network:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Stories/SouthEast-Linux-Fest-2016/cns-p/1590779
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is some information about what we've done in the past.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.usenix.org/conference/lisa12/technical-sessions/presentation/lang_david_wireless
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.usenix.org/publications/login/april-2013-volume-38-number-2/wireless-means-radio
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This last year we deployed about 110 access points around the show.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Conference center provides the Internet connection, and we have
>>>>>>>> paid them to allow us to run everything else.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is an opening for them to sponsor some of this. We can
>>>>>>>> definantly
>>>>>>>> use help setting up and running things. At the moment, we don't
>>>>>>>> know who
>>>>>>>> will be replacing Stu as the person setting up and running the
>>>>>>>> network for
>>>>>>>> the show. Michael Proctor-Smith is going to be running the AV
>>>>>>>> group, so he
>>>>>>>> will be continuing to spearhead the streaming effort.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The current plan is to select the new Tech Chair in a month or so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David Lang
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
>>>>>>> My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
>>>>>>> advance-networking.com
>>>>>>>
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>>>>> --
>>>>> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
>>>>> My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
>>>>> advance-networking.com
>>>>>
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