<div dir="ltr">Ya, we've also had OSSIE sessions with 5-10 people in the room. So as you can imagine the range varies depending on the topic, etc.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ilan Rabinovitch </div><div>Conference Chair</div><div>Southern California Linux Expo</div><div>877-831-2569 x110 Voice </div><div>818-442-1865 Mobile</div><div><a href="mailto:ilan@linuxfests.org" target="_blank">ilan@linuxfests.org</a> Email</div><div><br></div><div>---</div><div>Ask me about sponsorship and speaking opportunities at LinuxFests.org's upcoming events:</div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">DevOps Days SV - June 24-25, 2016 - Mountain View, CA</span><br></div><div>Texas Linux Fest - July 8-9, 2016, Austin TX</div><div>SCALE 15x - March 2-5, 2017 - Pasadena, CA</div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Hriday Balachandran <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bala@socallinuxexpo.org" target="_blank">bala@socallinuxexpo.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Ken,<div><br></div><div>OSSIE specific attendance is hard to predict. Some talks are rather popular, and some are not. On an average, I think 35-45 people attend the talks. The really popular ones approach three figures.</div><div><br></div><div>The way I have handled OSSIE talks has been a mix of CFP submissions and curated/invited talks. 5-6 talks are generally the target. </div><div><br></div><div>Bala.</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:50 PM, Kenneth Wyrick <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kmw@caltek.net" target="_blank">kmw@caltek.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I'd like to know what kind of numbers we are talking about for a track and<br>
how one typically goes about assessing and forecasting the participation<br>
both on the presentation and attendance side?<br>
<br>
<quote who="Caryl Bigenho"><br>
<span>Hi Ilan,<br>
Why don't you let Kenneth Wyrick and I see if we can get this going? You<br>
have given us a list of things to work on below and we can get started<br>
right away with such things as whether Friday or Saturday would work best<br>
and how to get more educators to attend.* As I see it, an OSSIE track<br>
shouldn't be just for educators. With so many parents getting involved in<br>
the technology side of their children's education, things like the Khan<br>
Academy videos, Hour of Code and Scratch/ScratchJr are things that will<br>
have a wider audience than just professional educators.<br>
Caryl<br>
* Maybe we could get a unit of college credit for folks who attend the<br>
entire OSSIE day and pay a small fee. Teachers can use this type of credit<br>
for professional development and, often, it can count toward increases in<br>
salary.<br>
<br>
</span><div><div>From: <a href="mailto:ilan@socallinuxexpo.org" target="_blank">ilan@socallinuxexpo.org</a><br>
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 14:45:05 -0700<br>
To: <a href="mailto:scale-planning@lists.linuxfests.org" target="_blank">scale-planning@lists.linuxfests.org</a>; <a href="mailto:bala@socallinuxexpo.org" target="_blank">bala@socallinuxexpo.org</a><br>
Subject: [Scale-planning] Open Source in Education Track (was Re: About<br>
the Open Data Track)<br>
<br>
We haven't yet made a decision around OSSIE for this year, but as a track<br>
it has seen reduced attendance and submissions over the past few years. If<br>
we can come up with some concrete plans around what we'd want it to look<br>
like and discuss how we can get teachers to attend I'm sure we'd be happy<br>
to arrange space again.<br>
Another thing to keep in mind is we've gotten mixed feedback from teachers<br>
on what day to hold OSSIE on if we continue to do so. On the one hand we<br>
hear from many teachers they can't attend during the weekend as they have<br>
trouble getting the school district to give them a day off for the<br>
conference. On the other hand, we also hear from them that they prefer to<br>
keep their weekends to themselves rather than for training.<br>
<br>
<br>
-Ilan<br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Caryl Bigenho <<a href="mailto:cbigenho@hotmail.com" target="_blank">cbigenho@hotmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
Hi Folks,<br>
I've been watching silently from afar (summer in Montana). It looks like<br>
everything is coming along well, except for one thing that seems to be<br>
entirely missing: OSSIE (Open Source Software In Education.)<br>
A few years back there was still a dedicated OSSIE track. Have you given<br>
up entirely on having one? If not, I'll be happy to volunteer to help<br>
organize, publicize, coordinate, and do what ever else needs to be done to<br>
make it happen.<br>
Just let me know!Caryl<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
On Aug 1, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Ilan Rabinovitch <<a href="mailto:ilan@socallinuxexpo.org" target="_blank">ilan@socallinuxexpo.org</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
Hello Juan,<br>
The local big data community has been running a data tools/big data track<br>
the last few years of SCALE. It's possible that what you're looking for<br>
might be covered there? OpenData in general has been a topic we've had<br>
requests for over the years, so we decided to add a one day track around<br>
it.<br>
That being said I think your email highlights an important point. We find<br>
a lot of confusion from both attendees and speakers about what is relevant<br>
for a given track each year. E.g. Is intro to kernel development a talk<br>
that belongs in the introductory/beginner track, a kernel track, or a<br>
developer track?<br>
With that in mind we have been looking to recruit experts around each<br>
track to help serve as "track leads". The role involves writing a one<br>
paragraph abstract describing what type of content we are seeking for that<br>
track, helping to do targeted recruitment for invited speakers on those<br>
tracks, and finally participating in the voting/review process of sessions<br>
submitted via the CFP.<br>
Here is an example of what QCon has done for these track descriptions<br>
===<br>
</div></div>Track: Containers - From Dev to ProdAbstract: Containers came to<br>
prominence a couple of years ago with thepromise of portability,<br>
<span>flexibility and rapid deployments. They remain a hot topic in the industry<br>
</span>and there are several success stories of companiesderiving business value<br>
<span>from the use of containers; especially in the area of developer<br>
experience. At the same time, container technology and thesurrounding<br>
ecosystem are evolving very rapidly, which makes it difficult to assess<br>
its readiness for production use.<br>
In this track, we will hear from practitioners who are leveraging<br>
containers as part of their software delivery processes for a better<br>
</span>developerexperience, simplified operations, efficient resource<br>
<span>utilization, or all of the above. Speakers will share their experiences in<br>
tackling the complex challenges around CI/CD, scheduling and<br>
</span>orchestration, service discovery, monitoring etc. andwhat it takes to<br>
truly reap the benefits of container technology.Track Lead(s): Sangeeta<br>
<span>Narayanan, Netflix<br>
<br>
===<br>
This makes it very clear what the goal of the track is and what type of<br>
content they're seeking.<br>
If you see a track on the CFP that you think you'd be a good fit to lead,<br>
reach out to myself and Shyam (<a href="mailto:kapadia@socallinuxexpo.org" target="_blank">kapadia@socallinuxexpo.org</a>). We'd love to<br>
have your help. We're seeing at least 1 person per track, with 2 leads<br>
per track max.<br>
Thanks,Ilan<br>
<br>
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On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Juan J. Natera <<a href="mailto:naterajj@gmail.com" target="_blank">naterajj@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I was taking a look at the CFP page<br>
<br>
(<a href="http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/15x/cfp" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/15x/cfp</a>), when I read the<br>
<br>
description of the Open Data track, which I quote here:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
"Open Data - This newly introduced track will focus on topics related<br>
<br>
to Open Data in Science, Government, and other sources. This will<br>
<br>
strive to answer questions such as: Why does Open Data Matter? What<br>
<br>
are benefits of Open Data? What are the goals of the Open Data<br>
<br>
movement? What is its current status?"<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
As an Open Source enthusiast, I wholeheartedly agree with the<br>
<br>
importance of Open Data, and realize there is a long road ahead of<br>
<br>
those working to address this issue. However I believe that this<br>
<br>
track, as described, would be more at home as a keynote in Data<br>
<br>
focused conference. I am not saying it goes against SCALE's mission to<br>
<br>
have this kind of content, far from it. but speaking also as an<br>
<br>
attendee, I think SCALE users would be more interested in Open Source<br>
<br>
tools for working with data (big or small), since it's already obvious<br>
<br>
for most scale attendees that Open Data is just as good as Open Source<br>
<br>
software.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I also realize that Big Data is mentioned in the Cloud Track, but<br>
<br>
isn't there enough interest in this topic to deserve its own track?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Some food for thought,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Juan<br>
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