[Scale-planning] Event Wifi Sponsored

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HI

SCALE 14x ( 2016 ) first one in Pasadena: ( as iirc )

Definitely do connect with the others as Ilan mentioned as we do have a LOT
of good SCaLE owned equipment iirc.

Q: On the schedule from scale14x I see that ballrooms I and J was used but
cant find them on the map.
A: I, J are interior rooms of the pink ballroom area. ( between room A and
H iirc )

Q: For exhibit hall was hall A and B used?
A: yes, both Expo Hall A and B were used.

Q: Do i see that right that rooms 101-105 have airwalls between them?
A: Yes iirc ( airwalls are those which you can move to make the room larger
)

Q: What room was used for command/staff
A:  205 - AV team, 207-208 press and speaker, 215 NOC, 204 ???, .. ( anyone
else recall others? )
Also, we had a registration area setup in the hall to the east of Expo Hall
A and B. We had various workstations and printers there.

Q: What area was used for noc?
A: NOC: 215

others will have to provide info on these.
Q: You said in a early email that pre-wired drops was used to connect to
the rooms. How many mdf/idf was used? What was the connect between them.
Q: Is it too early or have you all picked out what rooms will be used?


Thank You
Matti




On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 1:17 PM, SCALE Planning List <
scale-planning at lists.linuxfests.org> wrote:

> I have heard back form Ubiquiti and have gotten buy in from them for
> SCALE2017. I am working on the high level design for network to get idea of
> what gear we would need.
> Here is the best map of the site that I could find
> http://pasadenacenter.visitpasadena.com/facility/
> I have some questions
>
> On the schedule from scale14x I see that ballrooms I and J was used but
> cant find them on the map.
> For exhibit hall was hall A and B used?
> Do i see that right that rooms 101-105 have airwalls between them?
> What room was used for command/staff
> What area was used for noc?
> You said in a early email that pre-wired drops was used to connect to the
> rooms. How many mdf/idf was used? What was the connect between them.
> Is it too early or have you all picked out what rooms will be used?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 10:35 AM, SCALE Planning List <
> scale-planning at lists.linuxfests.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Zach,
>>
>> We'd love to have you on board. I see that you have signed up to the tech
>> list. That's a great place to start.
>>
>> We sure can appreciate some new blood and a different perspective to the
>> networks at Scale.
>>
>> Bala.
>> bala at socallinuxexpo.org
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:34 PM, SCALE Planning List <
>> scale-planning at lists.linuxfests.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey folks --
>>>
>>> I'm sitting out here on the periphery of this discussion (mainly because
>>> I'm more into the audio stuff :), but I did want to throw out some "scale"
>>> (haha) on the networking effort, since I was involved in a good portion of
>>> it this past year.
>>>
>>> It was interesting to me to see how it all came together, how the
>>> diagrams laid out everything, where the equipment was staged, etc. Clearly,
>>> someone spent a lot of time planning out things, right down to the length
>>> of specific cable runs needed in each room on each wall. There was a TON of
>>> networked gear to distribute and connect. Even if (for the moment) you
>>> discount the internet access points, there was still a lot of work going
>>> into cabling, devices, placement, testing, taping, replacing bad gear, etc.
>>> Add back in the connection of AP's and it was about double the effort I
>>> just mentioned.
>>>
>>> Zach, I love the idea of a vendor-supported internet option, but I would
>>> highly recommend that you talk to some of the folks who laid out gear last
>>> year and get their input to understand the tremendous work effort that went
>>> into this on the day before the event. I have huge respect for everyone who
>>> stuck it out into the wee hours of the morning just to make sure it worked
>>> the next day.
>>>
>>> I came in early on Wednesday to help out. I got there in the afternoon,
>>> and I worked until pretty much midnight (let's say, easily, 6 hours) just
>>> laying out the networking for the AP's (i.e., not including the cameras and
>>> pods). And I was one of a team of 6-8 people that night, I believe. Simply
>>> laying out the cabling took a while, and that's literally just laying all
>>> of it on the floor according to diagram. Then the AP's were placed and
>>> balanced, making sure that they were under chairs, that the matching
>>> network cables reached, that the correct ports were used, that they were
>>> near power outlets or extension cords, and so on. And finally -- what I
>>> think was the WORST part -- comes the taping down of the cabling and power
>>> conduits. That took 3-4 people another maybe 2-3 hours just for that one
>>> aspect. And dozens of gaff tape rolls. Tape was everywhere, including under
>>> moveable doors and panels, along walls, under chairs, across audio cables,
>>> on stages, etc.
>>>
>>> If I had to take an educated guess, I'd venture that the cabling and
>>> placement of AP's probably took 45-50 man hours. Not kidding. Most of us
>>> were also trained network admins, so this wasn't like pulling uneducated
>>> folks off the street; we knew what we were doing, and it still took that
>>> long. Your comment about "*All that needs to be done at the show is
>>> place and connect all of the hardware*" is what I'm referring to here:
>>> about 50 hours of work for JUST THAT. Nothing else. :)
>>>
>>> So, while I applaud the enthusiasm and excitement (and especially the
>>> volunteerism!), please keep in mind that this one single aspect of the show
>>> is a HUGE undertaking. If you go into this and gain a sponsor, you're still
>>> going to need a big crew, extremely well-placed and planned diagrams, and
>>> an organized and inventoried stock of cabling and parts. I completely agree
>>> with Ilan on this -- your help is very welcome and appreciated, but please
>>> go into this knowing it's going to be a huge effort.
>>>
>>> Just my $0.02 anyhow.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Bruce Bergman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2016-06-18 18:45, SCALE Planning List wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Zach,
>>>
>>> Excited to see you're so passionate about building out the SCALE
>>> network. We'd love to have you on board on our volunteer team.  Lets sync
>>> up and come to consensus on a plan before reaching out to sponsors.  We
>>> have a great deal of hardware that we own already and we should get on the
>>> same page before we make external requests, especially since many of the
>>> hardware vendors sponsor us in other ways at the moment.
>>>
>>> I'll defer to the current Tech Chair, who is Bala,  on timing but lets
>>> schedule a meeting soon. We're just hitting the time of year where we'd
>>> normally kick off our event planning for 2017.
>>>
>>> I believe Bala is traveling this weekend, but I'll add you to the tech
>>> list shortly and we can continue discussing how you can best help the team.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for wanting to make scale awesome.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ilan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ilan Rabinovitch
>>> Conference Chair
>>> Southern California Linux Expo
>>> 877-831-2569 x110 Voice
>>> 818-442-1865 Mobile
>>> ilan at linuxfests.org Email
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Ask me about sponsorship and speaking opportunities at LinuxFests.org's
>>> upcoming events:
>>> DevOps Days SV -  June 24-25, 2016 - Mountain View, CA
>>> Texas Linux Fest - July 8-9, 2016, Austin TX
>>> SCALE 15x - March 2-5, 2017 - Pasadena, CA
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 3:50 PM, SCALE Planning List <
>>> scale-planning at lists.linuxfests.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok now I have a good idea of the size of the network and will go to the
>>>> two sponsors to make sure I have there buy in.
>>>> On Jun 18, 2016 6:49 PM, "SCALE Planning List" <
>>>> scale-planning at lists.linuxfests.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 18 Jun 2016, SCALE Planning List wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh and any documents of network layout from last year.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> mostly these only exist as paper copies. With all the resignations in
>>>>> Tech after last year (at least 4 significant contributers, including both
>>>>> Chairs), I am about the only one with even a reasonably good idea of how
>>>>> things were setup. Anything else would involve reverse engineering things
>>>>> from the configs. The better approach is to discuss what we want to do with
>>>>> the people interested in the design level of things (ideally in person, a
>>>>> whiteboard is really desirable for this sort of work), and then setup this
>>>>> year's plan from that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe that I am the only person left who had the router password
>>>>> for this least year, and I never logged into one.
>>>>>
>>>>> David Lang
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 18, 2016 4:35 PM, "SCALE Planning List" <
>>>>>> scale-planning at lists.linuxfests.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What type and speeds of 2016 internet connection?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What type of APs used in 2016?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How many concurrent connected devices were there during 2016?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What was the cabling like? In ceiling, run along walls on the floor,
>>>>>>> pre-wired drops back to idf/mdf?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What type of switches were used in 2016?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can I get a cad drawing/detailed floor layout of the location?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Was the network used for things other than wifi and video recording,
>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>> as, vendors, registration desk, staff or anything else?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What was the peak lan usage in mbps?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Total cable length ran in 2016?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 4:25 PM, SCALE Planning List <
>>>>>>> scale-planning at lists.linuxfests.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Zach,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your interest in helping with SCALE's network and
>>>>>>>> streaming
>>>>>>>> needs.  I'm coping a few folks that can help answer your questions,
>>>>>>>> and let
>>>>>>>> you know where planning stands for 2017 and 2018.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bala copied here is the interim tech chair, between him, David who
>>>>>>>> replied a little bit ago, and myself we  can help share our current
>>>>>>>> plans
>>>>>>>> and let you know where we might need help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In terms of streaming Michael Proctor, also copied here, leads our
>>>>>>>> A/V
>>>>>>>> team which normally run our live streaming and session recordings.
>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>> record the sessions using IP cameras, and have most of the editing
>>>>>>>> automated via some software they've written. I'm sure they'd love a
>>>>>>>> hand
>>>>>>>> with either the automation tooling or staffing our cameras.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looking forward to working with you on SCALE 15x.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Ilan Rabinovitch
>>>>>>>> Conference Chair
>>>>>>>> Southern California Linux Expo
>>>>>>>> 877-831-2569 x110 Voice
>>>>>>>> 818-442-1865 Mobile
>>>>>>>> ilan at linuxfests.org Email
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> Ask me about sponsorship and speaking opportunities at
>>>>>>>> LinuxFests.org's
>>>>>>>> upcoming events:
>>>>>>>> DevOps Days SV -  June 24-25, 2016 - Mountain View, CA
>>>>>>>> Texas Linux Fest - July 8-9, 2016, Austin TX
>>>>>>>> SCALE 15x - March 2-5, 2017 - Pasadena, CA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 7:19 AM, SCALE Planning List <
>>>>>>>> scale-planning at lists.linuxfests.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can I get the contact info for Stu so I can ask some question of
>>>>>>>>> him?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 1:18 AM, SCALE Planning List <
>>>>>>>>> scale-planning at lists.linuxfests.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Jun 2016, SCALE Planning List wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I hope that this is the right place for this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have been asked to reach out the SCALE to see if you all are
>>>>>>>>>>> in need
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> help with live streaming, event networking, Wifi or internet
>>>>>>>>>>> access. I
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> just finished up doing the South East Linux Fest (SELF) Wifi and
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> contacted by Ubiquiti (a hardware maker) and another company
>>>>>>>>>>> Altispeed
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.altispeed.com/> about sponsoring the networking
>>>>>>>>>>> needs for
>>>>>>>>>>> SCALE.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As an example of the event networking I have done, here is the
>>>>>>>>>>> post I
>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>> about the SELF2016 network:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Stories/SouthEast-Linux-Fest-2016/cns-p/1590779
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here is some information about what we've done in the past.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.usenix.org/conference/lisa12/technical-sessions/presentation/lang_david_wireless
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.usenix.org/publications/login/april-2013-volume-38-number-2/wireless-means-radio
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This last year we deployed about 110 access points around the
>>>>>>>>>> show.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Conference center provides the Internet connection, and we
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> paid them to allow us to run everything else.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is an opening for them to sponsor some of this. We can
>>>>>>>>>> definantly
>>>>>>>>>> use help setting up and running things. At the moment, we don't
>>>>>>>>>> know who
>>>>>>>>>> will be replacing Stu as the person setting up and running the
>>>>>>>>>> network for
>>>>>>>>>> the show. Michael Proctor-Smith is going to be running the AV
>>>>>>>>>> group, so he
>>>>>>>>>> will be continuing to spearhead the streaming effort.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The current plan is to select the new Tech Chair in a month or so.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> David Lang
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
>>>>>>>>> My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
>>>>>>>>> advance-networking.com
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>>>>>>> My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
>>>>>>> advance-networking.com
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