[Scale-planning] Mobile App

Nathan Haines nathan at nhaines.com
Sat Feb 9 06:07:24 UTC 2019


Hi Darek,

I'm glad the feedback was useful!

I'm using a Google Pixel 2 running Android 9.

It looks like my bugs are described respectively in issues #14, #9, #1, 
and the bonus complaint is #6.

So I simply emojied them.

Regards,
Nathan

On 2/8/19 2:23 PM, Derek Nowicki wrote:
> Nathan,
> 
> This is all fantastic feedback, and I really appreciate it. These things 
> should be totally fixable before the conference.
> 
> If you have a github account, would you be willing to put in some issues 
> on the issues tracker?
> 
> https://github.com/KnowikiApps/scale-conf-app/issues
> 
> If not, I can add them myself no problem.
> 
> Can you also let me know what model of android phone you're using? Also 
> the android version if you can. I want to see if I can reproduce the 
> issues on an emulator.
> 
> Keep the feedback coming!
> 
> Best,
> 
> /Derek Nowicki
> Knowiki Apps
> 818-262-9565/
> 
> 
> On 2/7/19 7:48 PM, Nathan Haines wrote:
>> Thanks for all your hard work, Derek.  I've made a few notes, and in 
>> the interest of time, I'll be blunt--but please know that I appreciate 
>> the effort it takes to make an app, much less a cross-platform one!
>>
>> I noticed that on Android, the back button doesn't do anything--you 
>> have to tap the toolbar button.  That screams "amateur," and of course 
>> the app is a lot better than that!
>>
>> If you look at the schedule, there's an "add to my schedule" button, 
>> but if you do so, there's no indication that it worked after you 
>> dismiss the confirmation.  I feel like the [+] button should change to 
>> a different icon or at the least a [-] button to remove it.
>>
>> Last, I can't actually scroll down to the last session on any day, 
>> just the second-to-last, so that I can scroll the screen and hold my 
>> finger on the screen to see the last session, but I can never add it 
>> to my schedule or tap it to view the details.
>>
>> Tapping a session to view the web page also seems a little disjointed 
>> (although the dynamic responsiveness of the SCALE fits in nicely), but 
>> I'd rather have a native view of the description and author info.
>>
>> "Back" button support is a major issue, the rest are serious but much 
>> more minor.  It's still a pretty good mobile experience, and much 
>> better than sliding around the web site.  So thanks for all the hard 
>> work!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nathan
>>
>> On 2/7/19 6:41 PM, Derek Nowicki wrote:
>>> Thanks for installing! 17x updates are coming very soon! Please let 
>>> me know if you find any other issues, or if you have any features 
>>> that you'd like to see.
>>>
>>> /Derek Nowicki
>>> Knowiki Apps
>>> 818-262-9565/
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/7/19 6:03 PM, Swantje wrote:
>>>> I could help with beta testing. I just installed the app. It still 
>>>> seems to show  16x.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 5:18 PM Ilan Rabinovitch 
>>>> <ilan at socallinuxexpo.org <mailto:ilan at socallinuxexpo.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     I installed it a bit back and did some cursory testing. Will do 
>>>> more.
>>>>
>>>>     Any volunteers on the list want to help out and beta test/?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 3:32 AM Derek Nowicki
>>>>     <derek at knowikiapps.com <mailto:derek at knowikiapps.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Ilan,
>>>>
>>>>         Sorry about the delayed reply, I've been dealing with some
>>>>         issues with one of my clients and it has been an absolute
>>>>         drain on my energy.
>>>>
>>>>         Things are going well with the app though. I'm just about done
>>>>         updating the urls and image resources for the 17x moniker, and
>>>>         I'll be uploading the updated app to the stores soon.
>>>>
>>>>         What would be really awesome is if you could install the app
>>>>         on your phone and test it out before I upload the updates to
>>>>         the stores. Obviously, the data will be from 16x but we
>>>>         haven't changed any of the features so you should be able to
>>>>         use it just the same. Any feedback you give can be integrated
>>>>         into the update I'll send.
>>>>
>>>>         I think the main thing I need to know is what work we need to
>>>>         do for it to be acceptable for the conference. If there are
>>>>         any features that you want to add, we definitely have time to
>>>>         work on them. If there are any bugs you find, we have time to
>>>>         fix them. I'd love to get an email from you soon that says the
>>>>         app is good enough to use this year.
>>>>
>>>>         Whatever we need to do to get this year to be the first year
>>>>         SCaLE has it's own app, I'm down to get it done. I just need
>>>>         your feedback.
>>>>
>>>>         /Derek Nowicki
>>>>         Knowiki Apps
>>>>         818-262-9565/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         On 2/5/19 11:35 PM, Ilan Rabinovitch wrote:
>>>>>         Hi Derek, Hows the app coming along? Need any help from us?
>>>>>
>>>>>         On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 1:50 PM Derek 
>>>>> Nowicki<derek at knowikiapps.com> <mailto:derek at knowikiapps.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>         As far as I know, there isn't a legal way to bypass the 
>>>>>> app store for apple. android will allow you to do it, but with ios 
>>>>>> you'd need to jailbreak your phone or "sideload" the app from 
>>>>>> another device. For Android the users would have to set their 
>>>>>> devices to allow unauthorized apps, which I don't think anyone 
>>>>>> would be willing to do, and we would have to set up some backend 
>>>>>> download endpoint for he apk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         It looks like we could possibly contact apple directly 
>>>>>> (and probably google too) to expedite a review. We may be able to 
>>>>>> make a case that we want to push immediate updates for the 
>>>>>> conference. But really, I think if we got some people testing it 
>>>>>> over the next couple months we should be fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Currently, the URLs are baked into the app, but they don't 
>>>>>> have to stay that way. There's a bunch of ways we could probably 
>>>>>> do it since they are just strings in the source code. You're 
>>>>>> welcome to work on it. If you send me your github handle, I can 
>>>>>> add you as a dev on the project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Derek Nowicki
>>>>>>         Knowiki Apps
>>>>>>         818-262-9565
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         On 1/26/19 10:24 AM, Hriday Balachandran wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Hi Derek,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Do the urls have to be baked into the IPA? Also, can we 
>>>>>> push the ipa outside of the store, so we can avoid Apple store?
>>>>>>         On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 11:22 AM Ilan 
>>>>>> Rabinovitch<ilan at socallinuxexpo.org> 
>>>>>> <mailto:ilan at socallinuxexpo.org>  wrote:
>>>>>>>         Hi Derek,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         I added an announcement about KubeFlow day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Ilan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 1:11 PM Derek 
>>>>>>> Nowicki<derek at knowikiapps.com> <mailto:derek at knowikiapps.com>  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>         Ilan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         I changed all of the urls and they look like they are 
>>>>>>>> working just fine! I'm also in the process of editing the image 
>>>>>>>> resources to reflect the new 17x as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Can you add some announcements to the backend for 17x? 
>>>>>>>> We'll need some sample announcements that don't contain the 
>>>>>>>> words "sample", "demo", "test" or anything like that (apple will 
>>>>>>>> reject the app if we use those kinds of words). Or if you want 
>>>>>>>> to give me access to the backend I can do it, whatever you feel 
>>>>>>>> comfortable with. I would recommend that you just copy the text 
>>>>>>>> from some tweets or facebook posts. It would be real 
>>>>>>>> announcements that apple probably wouldn't have a problem with.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Once we have some announcements in there and I've edited 
>>>>>>>> the image resources, I should be able to deploy to the app 
>>>>>>>> stores and have the 17x ready to install/update in couple days 
>>>>>>>> time. I will also update the app store graphics and screen shots 
>>>>>>>> with the 17x moniker.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         In my experience, it can take around 48 hours for 
>>>>>>>> updates to be approved by the app stores, so we want to make 
>>>>>>>> sure that we get as much testing done as soon as we can so that 
>>>>>>>> we have time to fix bugs and make updates. Once the conference 
>>>>>>>> starts, we probably won't be able to get app updates to the 
>>>>>>>> users before the end.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Derek Nowicki
>>>>>>>>         Knowiki Apps
>>>>>>>>         818-262-9565
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On 1/25/19 12:36 AM, Ilan Rabinovitch wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Thanks Derek. .What urls did you use for 16x? Can we 
>>>>>>>> just change the
>>>>>>>>         path to 17x?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:07 PM Derek 
>>>>>>>> Nowicki<derek at knowikiapps.com> <mailto:derek at knowikiapps.com>  
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Last year we started working on a mobile app to replace 
>>>>>>>> guidebook. We got most of the way there, but didn't quite make 
>>>>>>>> it in time to be used for the conference. We'd love to see this 
>>>>>>>> app used this year so we're reaching out for your help to get it 
>>>>>>>> up and running. We're looking for people to test the app, 
>>>>>>>> develop features, find and report bugs, and work on backend 
>>>>>>>> features.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         the app can be installed on both Android, iOS, and all 
>>>>>>>> desktop OS's:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.knowikiapps.SCaLE
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/scale-conference/id1340573731
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/KnowikiApps/scale-conf-app
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Currently the app is configured for 16x, but we just 
>>>>>>>> need the backend API endpoints for 17x and that will be fixed. 
>>>>>>>> So if you're the site admin send us the endpoint URLs please!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         If you're interested in contributing to the project as a 
>>>>>>>> tester, developer, or designer let us know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         --
>>>>>>>>         Derek Nowicki
>>>>>>>>         Knowiki Apps
>>>>>>>>         818-262-9565
>>>>>>>>
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