So I was mentioning to someone that each year we post audio recordings... and they said they couldn't find last year's recordings on the site.
So I went to poke around, and I can't find them either. Am I missing them, or did they never get posted?
We have most of last years audio, but we have been running into problems with archive.org.
We are currently looking for a hosting solution for last years audio, this years audio, and scale 1x and 2x videos. Recently a sponsor has come forward to offer space / bandwidth for this. I hope to have it ironed out asap.
If anyone has any suggestions for hosting solutions let us know
Ilan
-----Original Message----- From: Phil Dibowitz phil@ipom.com Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:47:57 To:scale-planning@mail.socallinuxexpo.com Subject: [Scale-planning] past year audio recordings?
So I was mentioning to someone that each year we post audio recordings... and they said they couldn't find last year's recordings on the site.
So I went to poke around, and I can't find them either. Am I missing them, or did they never get posted?
ilan@fonz.net wrote:
We have most of last years audio, but we have been running into problems with archive.org.
We are currently looking for a hosting solution for last years audio, this years audio, and scale 1x and 2x videos. Recently a sponsor has come forward to offer space / bandwidth for this. I hope to have it ironed out asap.
If anyone has any suggestions for hosting solutions let us know
bzip2'ing them and throwing them on socallinuxexpo.com will take too much bandwidth?
I have the bandwidth for them on zig, but not the disk space...
I don't know if Ilan was referring to my offer, but I'll be glad to host them. I have a couple gigs and quite a bit of bandwidth to spare.
(dunno if it's enough gigs though...)
--Russell
n Sunday 18 February 2007, Phil Dibowitz wrote:
ilan@fonz.net wrote:
We have most of last years audio, but we have been running into problems with archive.org.
We are currently looking for a hosting solution for last years audio, this years audio, and scale 1x and 2x videos. Recently a sponsor has come forward to offer space / bandwidth for this. I hope to have it ironed out asap.
If anyone has any suggestions for hosting solutions let us know
bzip2'ing them and throwing them on socallinuxexpo.com will take too much bandwidth?
I have the bandwidth for them on zig, but not the disk space...
I also have access to DVDs of a couple of the presentations, although they're not of high professional quality, they're still quite informative (the person who put the DVDs together didn't do a professional job and is probably quite OK with that :))
If you want them, I think I can send them along to you. They're 2G apiece, so let me know, and I'll make the images available.
--Russell
On Sunday 18 February 2007, Russell Miller wrote:
I don't know if Ilan was referring to my offer, but I'll be glad to host them. I have a couple gigs and quite a bit of bandwidth to spare.
(dunno if it's enough gigs though...)
--Russell
n Sunday 18 February 2007, Phil Dibowitz wrote:
ilan@fonz.net wrote:
We have most of last years audio, but we have been running into problems with archive.org.
We are currently looking for a hosting solution for last years audio, this years audio, and scale 1x and 2x videos. Recently a sponsor has come forward to offer space / bandwidth for this. I hope to have it ironed out asap.
If anyone has any suggestions for hosting solutions let us know
bzip2'ing them and throwing them on socallinuxexpo.com will take too much bandwidth?
I have the bandwidth for them on zig, but not the disk space...
Scale-planning mailing list Scale-planning@mail.socallinuxexpo.com http://mail.socallinuxexpo.com/mailman/listinfo/scale-planning
Can we put the videos on youtube?
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 03:20:43PM -0800, Russell Miller wrote:
I also have access to DVDs of a couple of the presentations, although they're not of high professional quality, they're still quite informative (the person who put the DVDs together didn't do a professional job and is probably quite OK with that :))
If you want them, I think I can send them along to you. They're 2G apiece, so let me know, and I'll make the images available.
--Russell
On Sunday 18 February 2007, Russell Miller wrote:
I don't know if Ilan was referring to my offer, but I'll be glad to host them. I have a couple gigs and quite a bit of bandwidth to spare.
(dunno if it's enough gigs though...)
--Russell
n Sunday 18 February 2007, Phil Dibowitz wrote:
ilan@fonz.net wrote:
We have most of last years audio, but we have been running into problems with archive.org.
We are currently looking for a hosting solution for last years audio, this years audio, and scale 1x and 2x videos. Recently a sponsor has come forward to offer space / bandwidth for this. I hope to have it ironed out asap.
If anyone has any suggestions for hosting solutions let us know
bzip2'ing them and throwing them on socallinuxexpo.com will take too much bandwidth?
I have the bandwidth for them on zig, but not the disk space...
Scale-planning mailing list Scale-planning@mail.socallinuxexpo.com http://mail.socallinuxexpo.com/mailman/listinfo/scale-planning
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Not a bad idea. Either that or google video should be easy to do. Are there any format / file type requirements on either?
-----Original Message----- From: Lei Zhang leiz@linux.ucla.edu Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:17:41 To:SCALE Planning scale-planning@mail.socallinuxexpo.com Subject: Re: [Scale-planning] past year audio recordings?
Can we put the videos on youtube?
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 03:20:43PM -0800, Russell Miller wrote:
I also have access to DVDs of a couple of the presentations, although they're not of high professional quality, they're still quite informative (the person who put the DVDs together didn't do a professional job and is probably quite OK with that :))
If you want them, I think I can send them along to you. They're 2G apiece, so let me know, and I'll make the images available.
--Russell
On Sunday 18 February 2007, Russell Miller wrote:
I don't know if Ilan was referring to my offer, but I'll be glad to host them. I have a couple gigs and quite a bit of bandwidth to spare.
(dunno if it's enough gigs though...)
--Russell
n Sunday 18 February 2007, Phil Dibowitz wrote:
ilan@fonz.net wrote:
We have most of last years audio, but we have been running into problems with archive.org.
We are currently looking for a hosting solution for last years audio, this years audio, and scale 1x and 2x videos. Recently a sponsor has come forward to offer space / bandwidth for this. I hope to have it ironed out asap.
If anyone has any suggestions for hosting solutions let us know
bzip2'ing them and throwing them on socallinuxexpo.com will take too much bandwidth?
I have the bandwidth for them on zig, but not the disk space...
Scale-planning mailing list Scale-planning@mail.socallinuxexpo.com http://mail.socallinuxexpo.com/mailman/listinfo/scale-planning
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On 2/19/07, Lei Zhang leiz@linux.ucla.edu wrote:
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 02:42:28PM -0800, Russell Miller wrote:
On Monday 19 February 2007, Lei Zhang wrote:
Can we put the videos on youtube?
No, youtube has size limits, but there may be other options.
100 MB right? It looks like Google video has no limits though.
There are issues with files over 2GB, most formats are supported.
Lei Zhang wrote:
Can we put the videos on youtube?
Nice!
I've seen audio-only postings as well... maybe we could get all of the audio/video up there.
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 02:17:41PM -0800, Lei Zhang wrote:
Can we put the videos on youtube?
Excellent idea. High vision.
Was anyone able to confirm the size requirements for Google Video / YouTube?
Ted Faber wrote:
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 02:17:41PM -0800, Lei Zhang wrote:
Can we put the videos on youtube?
Excellent idea. High vision.
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I don't think Google Video has a size limit.
On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 06:40:37PM -0800, Ilan Rabinovitch wrote:
Was anyone able to confirm the size requirements for Google Video / YouTube?
Ted Faber wrote:
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 02:17:41PM -0800, Lei Zhang wrote:
Can we put the videos on youtube?
Excellent idea. High vision.
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I'm not on video team. If this isn't resolved by Monday, please send me a note at work with relevant information (number and size of video and audio files) and I'll try to get them officially added. I know one of the SREs that supports video, so I can get the technical issues resolved quickly; the real question is whether we can make a "SCALE" section on Google Video and fill it with full length recordings.
Ilan Rabinovitch wrote:
Was anyone able to confirm the size requirements for Google Video / YouTube?
Ted Faber wrote:
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 02:17:41PM -0800, Lei Zhang wrote:
Can we put the videos on youtube?
Excellent idea. High vision.
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Reviewing the Google Video site, there are no limits as long as you use the "desktop client" for uploading the files.
Russell, what would be the easiest way for us to try and get one of those videos to upload? Does you colleague have them anywhere easily accessible so that we can give it a shot?
Ilan
Alex Perry wrote:
I'm not on video team. If this isn't resolved by Monday, please send me a note at work with relevant information (number and size of video and audio files) and I'll try to get them officially added. I know one of the SREs that supports video, so I can get the technical issues resolved quickly; the real question is whether we can make a "SCALE" section on Google Video and fill it with full length recordings.
Ilan Rabinovitch wrote:
Was anyone able to confirm the size requirements for Google Video / YouTube?
Ted Faber wrote:
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 02:17:41PM -0800, Lei Zhang wrote:
Can we put the videos on youtube?
Excellent idea. High vision.
Scale-planning mailing list Scale-planning@mail.socallinuxexpo.com http://mail.socallinuxexpo.com/mailman/listinfo/scale-planning
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Russell,
Were we able to get access to the videos? We'd like to get them up on the site along with our audio.
Ilan
Ilan Rabinovitch wrote:
Reviewing the Google Video site, there are no limits as long as you use the "desktop client" for uploading the files. Russell, what would be the easiest way for us to try and get one of those videos to upload? Does you colleague have them anywhere easily accessible so that we can give it a shot?
Ilan
Alex Perry wrote:
I'm not on video team. If this isn't resolved by Monday, please send me a note at work with relevant information (number and size of video and audio files) and I'll try to get them officially added. I know one of the SREs that supports video, so I can get the technical issues resolved quickly; the real question is whether we can make a "SCALE" section on Google Video and fill it with full length recordings.
Ilan Rabinovitch wrote:
Was anyone able to confirm the size requirements for Google Video / YouTube?
Ted Faber wrote:
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 02:17:41PM -0800, Lei Zhang wrote:
Can we put the videos on youtube?
Excellent idea. High vision.
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Orv and I talked about possibly having a track dedicated to Open Source in Education at the next SCALE.
Here are some initial thoughts, I hope this isn't too long.
Tim Frichtel
“Education Day” at SCALE 6x
* Key topics for Educators: * * Software that can be used in classroom and at home * * General purpose software (OO.org, Gimp, N|Vu, Inkscape, Scribus, Jashaka?) * * Educational software (GeoGebra, TuxMath, TuxType) * * “Web 2.0” -- blogging (Wordpress) and wikis (Mediawiki) * * Possibly programming – Logo, Python, PHP, Java etc.
* Software for school management * * Moodle - this is a no-brainer! Great tool, lots of success stories, solves a real need. * * SugarCRM - seemingly odd, but for private schools, managing donors, tuition etc is a logistical challenge * * Content Management System - Joomla, Plone etc - show how schools can have a great, up-to-date website with minimal web building skills * * Possibly OpenLDAP for managing authentication in large schools (possibly too narrowly technical)
* Benefits/Risks of Open Source * Successfully migrating to Open Source * How to get Support * * Books, websites, resources for _non-tech_ users
How to get Educators and Administrators to attend: * Position the presentations as ways to get great software into curriculum. I don't think putting the emphasis on free, freedom, or it isn't Microsoft/Apple will be a strong pull.
* Focus on how this is a great continuing-development opportunity for teachers/administrators. Schools actively look for ways to offer development to their staff. This is usually focused on things that get continuing ed credit, as these help credentialed teachers maintain their credentials, but the lack of college credit may not be a deal killer.
* Offer practical labs. Logistically, this would be challenging, but if the conference rooms are big enough, we should be able to use LTSP setups that will provide a great environment for working with Open Office, Blogging, etc. It might be possible to get HP (who has a big K-12 sell) and/or Dell, IMB etc to provide some equipment. Maybe Linspire, Novell or RedHat would be willing to chip in. They don't need to provide much. For instance, HP could provide thin clients and LCDs, with Linspire providing giveaway software. Failing that, we might be able to get used equipment resellers (who often market to schools) to loan us equipment. Old laptops can make decent thin clients, or can run Knoppix, livekiosk etc. If you look at Educational Computer shows like CUE (www.cue.org) the hands-on sessions for editing photos, web pages, blogging, podcasting etc are always packed.
* Provide practical "take-aways". Giving out an Open CD or a Ubuntu disk is nice, but if a short document with some tips on getting started and using the software in the classroom could be passed out as well, I think that would be a lot better. Maybe something like "10 Great Creative Writing projects with Blogs" or "Key features for creating research papers with Open Office Writer" or "Demonstrating Geometry fundamentals with GeoGebra".
* Get speakers who are educators and have success stories to tell. A bio that states an experienced teacher is using Linux | Moodle | GIMP etc is a much stronger draw than just talking about how great the software is and what _might_ be done with it. There are some great success stories, here are few I've heard of: - Riverdale High School in Oregon (http://k12ltsp.org/rhs_casestudy.html) - Indiana Schools: http://www.doe.state.in.us/INaccess/pdf/inACCESS_readiness-assessment.pdf - Vassalboro Community School in Maine http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT8952848817.html
Tim Frichtel wrote:
Orv and I talked about possibly having a track dedicated to Open Source in Education at the next SCALE.
Here are some initial thoughts, I hope this isn't too long.
This sounds like it'd be a good mini-conference. It seems like it would be very difficult to have this be a track. Lining up speakers for a theme is traditionally difficult. You generally tend to get a bunch of speakers that all talk about one piece of that theme, or you only get one speaker. It also tends to off-balanace other tracks, and cause eh, track-starvation, for lack of a better term.
Of course, I'm taking this from talks with the chair people over the last 5 years - I've never been the Speaker Chair.
However, if a small group of people were interested in this and got together to make a mini-conference, it could be the day before (like 5x's mini-conferences) and I think that could be very successful.
That said, I (no longer) speak authoritatively for SCALE - it's just my 2 cents.
Tim Frichtel wrote:
Orv and I talked about possibly having a track dedicated to Open Source in Education at the next SCALE.
Here are some initial thoughts, I hope this isn't too long.
Tim Frichtel
“Education Day” at SCALE 6x
- Key topics for Educators:
- Software that can be used in classroom and at home
- General purpose software (OO.org, Gimp, N|Vu, Inkscape, Scribus,
Jashaka?)
- Educational software (GeoGebra, TuxMath, TuxType)
- “Web 2.0” -- blogging (Wordpress) and wikis (Mediawiki)
- Possibly programming – Logo, Python, PHP, Java etc.
Software for school management
- Moodle - this is a no-brainer! Great tool, lots of success stories,
solves a real need.
- SugarCRM - seemingly odd, but for private schools, managing donors,
tuition etc is a logistical challenge
- Content Management System - Joomla, Plone etc - show how schools can
have a great, up-to-date website with minimal web building skills
- Possibly OpenLDAP for managing authentication in large schools
(possibly too narrowly technical)
- Benefits/Risks of Open Source
- Successfully migrating to Open Source
- How to get Support
- Books, websites, resources for _non-tech_ users
How to get Educators and Administrators to attend:
- Position the presentations as ways to get great software into
curriculum. I don't think putting the emphasis on free, freedom, or it isn't Microsoft/Apple will be a strong pull.
- Focus on how this is a great continuing-development opportunity for
teachers/administrators. Schools actively look for ways to offer development to their staff. This is usually focused on things that get continuing ed credit, as these help credentialed teachers maintain their credentials, but the lack of college credit may not be a deal killer.
- Offer practical labs. Logistically, this would be challenging, but if
the conference rooms are big enough, we should be able to use LTSP setups that will provide a great environment for working with Open Office, Blogging, etc. It might be possible to get HP (who has a big K-12 sell) and/or Dell, IMB etc to provide some equipment. Maybe Linspire, Novell or RedHat would be willing to chip in. They don't need to provide much. For instance, HP could provide thin clients and LCDs, with Linspire providing giveaway software. Failing that, we might be able to get used equipment resellers (who often market to schools) to loan us equipment. Old laptops can make decent thin clients, or can run Knoppix, livekiosk etc. If you look at Educational Computer shows like CUE (www.cue.org) the hands-on sessions for editing photos, web pages, blogging, podcasting etc are always packed.
- Provide practical "take-aways". Giving out an Open CD or a Ubuntu disk
is nice, but if a short document with some tips on getting started and using the software in the classroom could be passed out as well, I think that would be a lot better. Maybe something like "10 Great Creative Writing projects with Blogs" or "Key features for creating research papers with Open Office Writer" or "Demonstrating Geometry fundamentals with GeoGebra".
- Get speakers who are educators and have success stories to tell. A bio
that states an experienced teacher is using Linux | Moodle | GIMP etc is a much stronger draw than just talking about how great the software is and what _might_ be done with it. There are some great success stories, here are few I've heard of:
- Riverdale High School in Oregon (http://k12ltsp.org/rhs_casestudy.html)
- Indiana Schools:
http://www.doe.state.in.us/INaccess/pdf/inACCESS_readiness-assessment.pdf
- Vassalboro Community School in Maine
http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT8952848817.html
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If this idea gets any traction I would like to volunteer to help develop it. Anything that helps our schools...although I think this will have greater appeal for private schools than for public schools.
Of course you can still count on me to pull wire at scale 6x.
Cheers, Steve G
I work for a private university, The University of Advancing Technology in Phoenix, AZ. We had a group of about 10 students make the journey to Scale5x this year and I would like to say thank you, we had a great time. We unfortunately missed the education talk held on the last day due to having to make the drive back to Phoenix before classes started the next morning. I would love to see an education track next year and I also would like to volunteer my time to help anyway possible. Until then, thanks for a great conference. See you next year.
On 2/24/07, Steve Glasser steve@fpig.net wrote:
Tim Frichtel wrote:
Orv and I talked about possibly having a track dedicated to Open Source in Education at the next SCALE.
Here are some initial thoughts, I hope this isn't too long.
Tim Frichtel
"Education Day" at SCALE 6x
- Key topics for Educators:
- Software that can be used in classroom and at home
- General purpose software (OO.org, Gimp, N|Vu, Inkscape, Scribus,
Jashaka?)
- Educational software (GeoGebra, TuxMath, TuxType)
- "Web 2.0" -- blogging (Wordpress) and wikis (Mediawiki)
- Possibly programming – Logo, Python, PHP, Java etc.
Software for school management
- Moodle - this is a no-brainer! Great tool, lots of success stories,
solves a real need.
- SugarCRM - seemingly odd, but for private schools, managing donors,
tuition etc is a logistical challenge
- Content Management System - Joomla, Plone etc - show how schools can
have a great, up-to-date website with minimal web building skills
- Possibly OpenLDAP for managing authentication in large schools
(possibly too narrowly technical)
- Benefits/Risks of Open Source
- Successfully migrating to Open Source
- How to get Support
- Books, websites, resources for _non-tech_ users
How to get Educators and Administrators to attend:
- Position the presentations as ways to get great software into
curriculum. I don't think putting the emphasis on free, freedom, or it isn't Microsoft/Apple will be a strong pull.
- Focus on how this is a great continuing-development opportunity for
teachers/administrators. Schools actively look for ways to offer development to their staff. This is usually focused on things that get continuing ed credit, as these help credentialed teachers maintain their credentials, but the lack of college credit may not be a deal killer.
- Offer practical labs. Logistically, this would be challenging, but if
the conference rooms are big enough, we should be able to use LTSP setups that will provide a great environment for working with Open Office, Blogging, etc. It might be possible to get HP (who has a big K-12 sell) and/or Dell, IMB etc to provide some equipment. Maybe Linspire, Novell or RedHat would be willing to chip in. They don't need to provide much. For instance, HP could provide thin clients and LCDs, with Linspire providing giveaway software. Failing that, we might be able to get used equipment resellers (who often market to schools) to loan us equipment. Old laptops can make decent thin clients, or can run Knoppix, livekiosk etc. If you look at Educational Computer shows like CUE (www.cue.org) the hands-on sessions for editing photos, web pages, blogging, podcasting etc are always packed.
- Provide practical "take-aways". Giving out an Open CD or a Ubuntu disk
is nice, but if a short document with some tips on getting started and using the software in the classroom could be passed out as well, I think that would be a lot better. Maybe something like "10 Great Creative Writing projects with Blogs" or "Key features for creating research papers with Open Office Writer" or "Demonstrating Geometry fundamentals with GeoGebra".
- Get speakers who are educators and have success stories to tell. A bio
that states an experienced teacher is using Linux | Moodle | GIMP etc is a much stronger draw than just talking about how great the software is and what _might_ be done with it. There are some great success stories, here are few I've heard of:
- Riverdale High School in Oregon (http://k12ltsp.org/rhs_casestudy.html
)
- Indiana Schools:
http://www.doe.state.in.us/INaccess/pdf/inACCESS_readiness-assessment.pdf
- Vassalboro Community School in Maine
http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT8952848817.html
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If this idea gets any traction I would like to volunteer to help develop it. Anything that helps our schools...although I think this will have greater appeal for private schools than for public schools.
Of course you can still count on me to pull wire at scale 6x.
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