Posting this now so I don't forget: ran a test with Lighthouse ( https://developers.google.com/web/tools/lighthouse/) on the SCALE homepage. There were definitely some areas we could improve. When it comes time to look at the redesign, I want to make sure we re-evaluate.
Does that include not loading 300 KB of JS, and another 300 KB of CSS?
Running pngcrush on all the PNGs on the front page shaved the PNG image total from 416 KB down to 376 KB.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote:
Posting this now so I don't forget: ran a test with Lighthouse (https://developers.google.com/web/tools/lighthouse/) on the SCALE homepage. There were definitely some areas we could improve. When it comes time to look at the redesign, I want to make sure we re-evaluate.
-- Chris
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FYI, On images and resizing, Mac "Graphic Converter 10" does great work scaling png's and others. (Lemke Software, GmbH)
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On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Lei Zhang leiz@socallinuxexpo.org wrote:
Does that include not loading 300 KB of JS, and another 300 KB of CSS?
Running pngcrush on all the PNGs on the front page shaved the PNG image total from 416 KB down to 376 KB.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote:
Posting this now so I don't forget: ran a test with Lighthouse (https://developers.google.com/web/tools/lighthouse/) on the SCALE
homepage.
There were definitely some areas we could improve. When it comes time to look at the redesign, I want to make sure we re-evaluate.
-- Chris
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I should have known better than to mention the report without providing links to it:
PDF: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIRWgtRzdXNTdkcTA Raw JSON: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIeEdadkdQa09UUmM
--Chris
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote:
Posting this now so I don't forget: ran a test with Lighthouse ( https://developers.google.com/web/tools/lighthouse/) on the SCALE homepage. There were definitely some areas we could improve. When it comes time to look at the redesign, I want to make sure we re-evaluate.
-- Chris
So, is anyone interested in making the website work better when offline? If the website has offline capability, and can preload the schedule, exhibitor list, and talk abstracts, then we probably won't need the separate Guidebook app to provide the same data.
https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/instant-and-offline/offline-c...
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote:
I should have known better than to mention the report without providing links to it:
PDF: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIRWgtRzdXNTdkcTA Raw JSON: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIeEdadkdQa09UUmM
--Chris
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote:
Posting this now so I don't forget: ran a test with Lighthouse (https://developers.google.com/web/tools/lighthouse/) on the SCALE homepage. There were definitely some areas we could improve. When it comes time to look at the redesign, I want to make sure we re-evaluate.
-- Chris
-- Chris
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And better yet we wont need to have staff modifying the schedule in multiple places when things change.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Lei Zhang leiz@socallinuxexpo.org wrote:
So, is anyone interested in making the website work better when offline? If the website has offline capability, and can preload the schedule, exhibitor list, and talk abstracts, then we probably won't need the separate Guidebook app to provide the same data.
https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/instant-and- offline/offline-cookbook/
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote:
I should have known better than to mention the report without providing links to it:
PDF: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIRWgtRzdXNTdkcTA Raw JSON: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIeEdadkdQa09UUmM
--Chris
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com
wrote:
Posting this now so I don't forget: ran a test with Lighthouse (https://developers.google.com/web/tools/lighthouse/) on the SCALE
homepage.
There were definitely some areas we could improve. When it comes time to look at the redesign, I want to make sure we re-evaluate.
-- Chris
-- Chris
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One of my volunteers, Derek Knowicki, is interested in this. I will forward this thread to him and ask him to subscribe to scale-planning.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Ilan Rabinovitch ilan@socallinuxexpo.org wrote:
And better yet we wont need to have staff modifying the schedule in multiple places when things change.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Lei Zhang leiz@socallinuxexpo.org wrote:
So, is anyone interested in making the website work better when offline? If the website has offline capability, and can preload the schedule, exhibitor list, and talk abstracts, then we probably won't need the separate Guidebook app to provide the same data.
https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/instant-and-o ffline/offline-cookbook/
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote:
I should have known better than to mention the report without providing links to it:
PDF: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIRWgtRzdXNTdkcTA Raw JSON: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIeEdadkdQa09UUmM
--Chris
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com
wrote:
Posting this now so I don't forget: ran a test with Lighthouse (https://developers.google.com/web/tools/lighthouse/) on the SCALE
homepage.
There were definitely some areas we could improve. When it comes time
to
look at the redesign, I want to make sure we re-evaluate.
-- Chris
-- Chris
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That's the part that I want to kill off.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Ilan Rabinovitch ilan@socallinuxexpo.org wrote:
And better yet we wont need to have staff modifying the schedule in multiple places when things change.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Lei Zhang leiz@socallinuxexpo.org wrote:
So, is anyone interested in making the website work better when offline? If the website has offline capability, and can preload the schedule, exhibitor list, and talk abstracts, then we probably won't need the separate Guidebook app to provide the same data.
https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/instant-and-o ffline/offline-cookbook/
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote:
I should have known better than to mention the report without providing links to it:
PDF: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIRWgtRzdXNTdkcTA Raw JSON: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIeEdadkdQa09UUmM
--Chris
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com
wrote:
Posting this now so I don't forget: ran a test with Lighthouse (https://developers.google.com/web/tools/lighthouse/) on the SCALE
homepage.
There were definitely some areas we could improve. When it comes time
to
look at the redesign, I want to make sure we re-evaluate.
-- Chris
-- Chris
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Am 06. Mar, 2017 schwätzte Lei Zhang so:
moin moin,
we talked about offline access to the schedule ( and many other things ) on the way home. A 5 hour drive gives us plenty of opportunity to discuss how the event went :).[0]
We actually were wondering about exporting the schedule or making it available via an API. Heck, putting it in a repo would be awesome :).
Even if Guidebook were better, I would like to easily pull the schedule and script up some slicing and dicing.
[0] Quite well was the consensus :).
ciao,
der.hans
So, is anyone interested in making the website work better when offline? If the website has offline capability, and can preload the schedule, exhibitor list, and talk abstracts, then we probably won't need the separate Guidebook app to provide the same data.
https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/instant-and-offline/offline-c...
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote:
I should have known better than to mention the report without providing links to it:
PDF: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIRWgtRzdXNTdkcTA Raw JSON: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIeEdadkdQa09UUmM
--Chris
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote:
Posting this now so I don't forget: ran a test with Lighthouse (https://developers.google.com/web/tools/lighthouse/) on the SCALE homepage. There were definitely some areas we could improve. When it comes time to look at the redesign, I want to make sure we re-evaluate.
-- Chris
-- Chris
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I second der.hans' suggestion as I often want to view the schedule on my own terms and not necessarily the way the website displays it.
Lan
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:27 PM, der.hans < Verteiler+SCaLE-planning@lufthans.com> wrote:
Am 06. Mar, 2017 schwätzte Lei Zhang so:
moin moin,
we talked about offline access to the schedule ( and many other things ) on the way home. A 5 hour drive gives us plenty of opportunity to discuss how the event went :).[0]
We actually were wondering about exporting the schedule or making it available via an API. Heck, putting it in a repo would be awesome :).
Even if Guidebook were better, I would like to easily pull the schedule and script up some slicing and dicing.
[0] Quite well was the consensus :).
ciao,
der.hans
So, is anyone interested in making the website work better when
offline? If the website has offline capability, and can preload the schedule, exhibitor list, and talk abstracts, then we probably won't need the separate Guidebook app to provide the same data.
https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/instant-and-o ffline/offline-cookbook/
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote:
I should have known better than to mention the report without providing links to it:
PDF: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIRWgtRzdXNTdkcTA Raw JSON: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIeEdadkdQa09UUmM
--Chris
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote:
Posting this now so I don't forget: ran a test with Lighthouse (https://developers.google.com/web/tools/lighthouse/) on the SCALE homepage. There were definitely some areas we could improve. When it comes time to look at the redesign, I want to make sure we re-evaluate.
-- Chris
-- Chris
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I would caution against an API, and rather suggest something more along the lines of an event catalog. Basically, you want a data only representation of the schedule that you'd want the whole world to have unrestricted access to, and which should be static enough that you needn't have an API. We could go with something microformat oriented like hCalendar/hEvent. You can shove that into a cheap CDN and never feel load on your web server again. ;-) The closest I'd want to come to an API for at least the raw schedule information would be something like CalDAV (and for something like that, we can probably get away with just publishing to Google Calendar or similar services).
Now, the fun part is the personalized content, but I'll leave that for a later discussion...
--Chris
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:27 PM, der.hans < Verteiler+SCaLE-planning@lufthans.com> wrote:
Am 06. Mar, 2017 schwätzte Lei Zhang so:
moin moin,
we talked about offline access to the schedule ( and many other things ) on the way home. A 5 hour drive gives us plenty of opportunity to discuss how the event went :).[0]
We actually were wondering about exporting the schedule or making it available via an API. Heck, putting it in a repo would be awesome :).
Even if Guidebook were better, I would like to easily pull the schedule and script up some slicing and dicing.
[0] Quite well was the consensus :).
ciao,
der.hans
So, is anyone interested in making the website work better when
offline? If the website has offline capability, and can preload the schedule, exhibitor list, and talk abstracts, then we probably won't need the separate Guidebook app to provide the same data.
https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/instant-and-o ffline/offline-cookbook/
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote:
I should have known better than to mention the report without providing links to it:
PDF: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIRWgtRzdXNTdkcTA Raw JSON: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIeEdadkdQa09UUmM
--Chris
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote:
Posting this now so I don't forget: ran a test with Lighthouse (https://developers.google.com/web/tools/lighthouse/) on the SCALE homepage. There were definitely some areas we could improve. When it comes time to look at the redesign, I want to make sure we re-evaluate.
-- Chris
-- Chris
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There is an XML format copy of the schedule at http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/15x/sign.xml which the sign displays leverage during the event.
Caching and personalized views can be implemented by the consumer.
The desire for a single source of truth for schedule data seems to be the more relevant topic here.
On Mar 7, 2017, at 01:51, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote:
I would caution against an API, and rather suggest something more along the lines of an event catalog. Basically, you want a data only representation of the schedule that you'd want the whole world to have unrestricted access to, and which should be static enough that you needn't have an API. We could go with something microformat oriented like hCalendar/hEvent. You can shove that into a cheap CDN and never feel load on your web server again. ;-) The closest I'd want to come to an API for at least the raw schedule information would be something like CalDAV (and for something like that, we can probably get away with just publishing to Google Calendar or similar services).
Now, the fun part is the personalized content, but I'll leave that for a later discussion...
--Chris
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:27 PM, der.hans Verteiler+SCaLE-planning@lufthans.com wrote: Am 06. Mar, 2017 schwätzte Lei Zhang so:
moin moin,
we talked about offline access to the schedule ( and many other things ) on the way home. A 5 hour drive gives us plenty of opportunity to discuss how the event went :).[0]
We actually were wondering about exporting the schedule or making it available via an API. Heck, putting it in a repo would be awesome :).
Even if Guidebook were better, I would like to easily pull the schedule and script up some slicing and dicing.
[0] Quite well was the consensus :).
ciao,
der.hans
So, is anyone interested in making the website work better when offline? If the website has offline capability, and can preload the schedule, exhibitor list, and talk abstracts, then we probably won't need the separate Guidebook app to provide the same data.
https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/instant-and-offline/offline-c...
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote: I should have known better than to mention the report without providing links to it:
PDF: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIRWgtRzdXNTdkcTA Raw JSON: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIeEdadkdQa09UUmM
--Chris
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote:
Posting this now so I don't forget: ran a test with Lighthouse (https://developers.google.com/web/tools/lighthouse/) on the SCALE homepage. There were definitely some areas we could improve. When it comes time to look at the redesign, I want to make sure we re-evaluate.
-- Chris
-- Chris
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Am 07. Mar, 2017 schwätzte Kyle Risse so:
moin moin,
There is an XML format copy of the schedule at http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/15x/sign.xml which the sign displays leverage during the event.
Oooh, that would work for me :).
Caching and personalized views can be implemented by the consumer.
That also works for me. Making the site more offline friendly would still be good.
The desire for a single source of truth for schedule data seems to be the more relevant topic here.
SSOT is always relevant.
For consuming, an export, API or repository will work for what I want. I can turn any of the 3 into whatever I want.
The xml link will work now that I know about it. Being able to get diffs would be nice, but I can generate those on my own as well. It probably works for most of our attendees that want to customize as well.
Adding data is a different story. The main optimization there would be to not need guidebook or have something similar that can be auto-populated. SSOT FTW :).
ciao,
der.hans
On Mar 7, 2017, at 01:51, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote:
I would caution against an API, and rather suggest something more along the lines of an event catalog. Basically, you want a data only representation of the schedule that you'd want the whole world to have unrestricted access to, and which should be static enough that you needn't have an API. We could go with something microformat oriented like hCalendar/hEvent. You can shove that into a cheap CDN and never feel load on your web server again. ;-) The closest I'd want to come to an API for at least the raw schedule information would be something like CalDAV (and for something like that, we can probably get away with just publishing to Google Calendar or similar services).
Now, the fun part is the personalized content, but I'll leave that for a later discussion...
--Chris
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:27 PM, der.hans Verteiler+SCaLE-planning@lufthans.com wrote: Am 06. Mar, 2017 schwätzte Lei Zhang so:
moin moin,
we talked about offline access to the schedule ( and many other things ) on the way home. A 5 hour drive gives us plenty of opportunity to discuss how the event went :).[0]
We actually were wondering about exporting the schedule or making it available via an API. Heck, putting it in a repo would be awesome :).
Even if Guidebook were better, I would like to easily pull the schedule and script up some slicing and dicing.
[0] Quite well was the consensus :).
ciao,
der.hans
So, is anyone interested in making the website work better when offline? If the website has offline capability, and can preload the schedule, exhibitor list, and talk abstracts, then we probably won't need the separate Guidebook app to provide the same data.
https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/instant-and-offline/offline-c...
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote: I should have known better than to mention the report without providing links to it:
PDF: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIRWgtRzdXNTdkcTA Raw JSON: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EgAHCFfstIeEdadkdQa09UUmM
--Chris
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Christopher Smith cbsmith@gmail.com wrote:
Posting this now so I don't forget: ran a test with Lighthouse (https://developers.google.com/web/tools/lighthouse/) on the SCALE homepage. There were definitely some areas we could improve. When it comes time to look at the redesign, I want to make sure we re-evaluate.
-- Chris
-- Chris
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