Moving this back to -planning. There's no secrets here.
Perhaps people have opinions on how they'd prefer to interact. We should get input (if any) from the actual people on this list before deciding one path is better than the other, or that we need 1 vs 2 or 2 vs 1.
On 8/10/22 13:35, Phil Dibowitz wrote:
I believe if the repo is starred you will get notifications, but I may be wrong.
As it stands we get little-to-no-engagement on the mailing list. If we want engagement, we should probably provide *more* ways to engage, not less.
That said, I don't mind if we want to kill the list. Since we're moving docs to the GH wiki, moving discussions there just centralizes stuff.
On 8/10/22 13:28, Ilan Rabinovitch wrote:
having yet another place to check for a group of volunteers who are already busy is not a good idea. If we're moving to github discussions then we should kill the mailing list.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 4:25 PM Phil Dibowitz <phil@ipom.com mailto:phil@ipom.com> wrote:
Mailing lists are not-as-popular these days, so I've gone ahead and enabled the 'discussions' tab in the SCALE-Planning GH repo:
https://github.com/socallinuxexpo/SCALE-Planning/discussions https://github.com/socallinuxexpo/SCALE-Planning/discussions
Feel free to engage there!
-- Phil Dibowitz phil@ipom.com mailto:phil@ipom.com Open Source software and tech docs Insanity Palace of Metallica http://www.phildev.net/ http://www.phildev.net/ http://www.ipom.com/ http://www.ipom.com/
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
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having two different channels for communications guarantees that people will miss discussions happening on the other channel.
comments in a doc or on a repo are appropriate for discussing specific changes, but not mroe general discussions IMHO
David Lang
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Phil Dibowitz wrote:
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 14:17:47 -0700 From: Phil Dibowitz phil@ipom.com Reply-To: SCALE Planning List scale-planning@lists.linuxfests.org To: scale-planning@lists.linuxfests.org Subject: Re: [Scale-planning] Discussions on GH opened
Moving this back to -planning. There's no secrets here.
Perhaps people have opinions on how they'd prefer to interact. We should get input (if any) from the actual people on this list before deciding one path is better than the other, or that we need 1 vs 2 or 2 vs 1.
On 8/10/22 13:35, Phil Dibowitz wrote:
I believe if the repo is starred you will get notifications, but I may be wrong.
As it stands we get little-to-no-engagement on the mailing list. If we want engagement, we should probably provide *more* ways to engage, not less.
That said, I don't mind if we want to kill the list. Since we're moving docs to the GH wiki, moving discussions there just centralizes stuff.
On 8/10/22 13:28, Ilan Rabinovitch wrote:
having yet another place to check for a group of volunteers who are already busy is not a good idea. If we're moving to github discussions then we should kill the mailing list.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 4:25 PM Phil Dibowitz <phil@ipom.com mailto:phil@ipom.com> wrote:
Mailing lists are not-as-popular these days, so I've gone ahead and enabled the 'discussions' tab in the SCALE-Planning GH repo:
https://github.com/socallinuxexpo/SCALE-Planning/discussions https://github.com/socallinuxexpo/SCALE-Planning/discussions
Feel free to engage there!
-- Phil Dibowitz phil@ipom.com mailto:phil@ipom.com Open Source software and tech docs Insanity Palace of Metallica http://www.phildev.net/ http://www.phildev.net/ http://www.ipom.com/ http://www.ipom.com/
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
_______________________________________________ Scale-planning mailing list Scale-planning@lists.linuxfests.org mailto:Scale-planning@lists.linuxfests.org https://lists.linuxfests.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/scale-planning
https://lists.linuxfests.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/scale-planning
Scale-chairs mailing list Scale-chairs@lists.linuxfests.org https://lists.linuxfests.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/scale-chairs
Have you looked at the Discussions feature of GH? It's a full featured forum, not a discussion on a repo.
On 8/10/22 16:20, David Lang wrote:
having two different channels for communications guarantees that people will miss discussions happening on the other channel.
comments in a doc or on a repo are appropriate for discussing specific changes, but not mroe general discussions IMHO
David Lang
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Phil Dibowitz wrote:
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 14:17:47 -0700 From: Phil Dibowitz phil@ipom.com Reply-To: SCALE Planning List scale-planning@lists.linuxfests.org To: scale-planning@lists.linuxfests.org Subject: Re: [Scale-planning] Discussions on GH opened
Moving this back to -planning. There's no secrets here.
Perhaps people have opinions on how they'd prefer to interact. We should get input (if any) from the actual people on this list before deciding one path is better than the other, or that we need 1 vs 2 or 2 vs 1.
On 8/10/22 13:35, Phil Dibowitz wrote:
I believe if the repo is starred you will get notifications, but I may be wrong.
As it stands we get little-to-no-engagement on the mailing list. If we want engagement, we should probably provide *more* ways to engage, not less.
That said, I don't mind if we want to kill the list. Since we're moving docs to the GH wiki, moving discussions there just centralizes stuff.
On 8/10/22 13:28, Ilan Rabinovitch wrote:
having yet another place to check for a group of volunteers who are already busy is not a good idea. If we're moving to github discussions then we should kill the mailing list.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 4:25 PM Phil Dibowitz <phil@ipom.com mailto:phil@ipom.com> wrote:
Mailing lists are not-as-popular these days, so I've gone ahead and enabled the 'discussions' tab in the SCALE-Planning GH repo:
https://github.com/socallinuxexpo/SCALE-Planning/discussions https://github.com/socallinuxexpo/SCALE-Planning/discussions
Feel free to engage there!
-- Phil Dibowitz phil@ipom.com mailto:phil@ipom.com Open Source software and tech docs Insanity Palace of Metallica http://www.phildev.net/ http://www.phildev.net/ http://www.ipom.com/ http://www.ipom.com/
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
_______________________________________________ Scale-planning mailing list Scale-planning@lists.linuxfests.org mailto:Scale-planning@lists.linuxfests.org
https://lists.linuxfests.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/scale-planning
https://lists.linuxfests.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/scale-planning
Scale-chairs mailing list Scale-chairs@lists.linuxfests.org https://lists.linuxfests.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/scale-chairs
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unless forums have a 'act like email' mode, I don't use them. I can't be bothered to check dozens of websites continually for new posts. And one0way email notification of new activity is a far distant second.
David Lang
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Phil Dibowitz wrote:
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 16:23:42 -0700 From: Phil Dibowitz phil@ipom.com Reply-To: SCALE Planning List scale-planning@lists.linuxfests.org To: scale-planning@lists.linuxfests.org Subject: Re: [Scale-planning] Discussions on GH opened
Have you looked at the Discussions feature of GH? It's a full featured forum, not a discussion on a repo.
On 8/10/22 16:20, David Lang wrote:
having two different channels for communications guarantees that people will miss discussions happening on the other channel.
comments in a doc or on a repo are appropriate for discussing specific changes, but not mroe general discussions IMHO
David Lang
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Phil Dibowitz wrote:
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 14:17:47 -0700 From: Phil Dibowitz phil@ipom.com Reply-To: SCALE Planning List scale-planning@lists.linuxfests.org To: scale-planning@lists.linuxfests.org Subject: Re: [Scale-planning] Discussions on GH opened
Moving this back to -planning. There's no secrets here.
Perhaps people have opinions on how they'd prefer to interact. We should get input (if any) from the actual people on this list before deciding one path is better than the other, or that we need 1 vs 2 or 2 vs 1.
On 8/10/22 13:35, Phil Dibowitz wrote:
I believe if the repo is starred you will get notifications, but I may be wrong.
As it stands we get little-to-no-engagement on the mailing list. If we want engagement, we should probably provide *more* ways to engage, not less.
That said, I don't mind if we want to kill the list. Since we're moving docs to the GH wiki, moving discussions there just centralizes stuff.
On 8/10/22 13:28, Ilan Rabinovitch wrote:
having yet another place to check for a group of volunteers who are already busy is not a good idea. If we're moving to github discussions then we should kill the mailing list.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 4:25 PM Phil Dibowitz <phil@ipom.com mailto:phil@ipom.com> wrote:
Mailing lists are not-as-popular these days, so I've gone ahead and enabled the 'discussions' tab in the SCALE-Planning GH repo:
https://github.com/socallinuxexpo/SCALE-Planning/discussions https://github.com/socallinuxexpo/SCALE-Planning/discussions
Feel free to engage there!
-- Phil Dibowitz phil@ipom.com mailto:phil@ipom.com Open Source software and tech docs Insanity Palace of Metallica http://www.phildev.net/ http://www.phildev.net/ http://www.ipom.com/ http://www.ipom.com/
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
_______________________________________________ Scale-planning mailing list Scale-planning@lists.linuxfests.org mailto:Scale-planning@lists.linuxfests.org
https://lists.linuxfests.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/scale-planning
https://lists.linuxfests.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/scale-planning
Scale-chairs mailing list Scale-chairs@lists.linuxfests.org https://lists.linuxfests.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/scale-chairs
Scale-planning mailing list Scale-planning@lists.linuxfests.org https://lists.linuxfests.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/scale-planning
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On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 7:20 PM David Lang david@lang.hm wrote:
having two different channels for communications guarantees that people will miss discussions happening on the other channel.
This is my primary concern. Between mailing lists, discord and slack we already have conversations happening in 3 places. I'm not excited. about a 4th.
I follow along with the ML's...
Having to go to yet ANOTHER place guarantees I will miss things...
T
On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 5:02 AM Ilan Rabinovitch ilan@socallinuxexpo.org wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 7:20 PM David Lang david@lang.hm wrote:
having two different channels for communications guarantees that people will miss discussions happening on the other channel.
This is my primary concern. Between mailing lists, discord and slack we already have conversations happening in 3 places. I'm not excited. about a 4th. _______________________________________________ Scale-planning mailing list Scale-planning@lists.linuxfests.org https://lists.linuxfests.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/scale-planning
On 8/11/22 05:00, Ilan Rabinovitch wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 7:20 PM David Lang <david@lang.hm mailto:david@lang.hm> wrote:
having two different channels for communications guarantees that people will miss discussions happening on the other channel.This is my primary concern. Between mailing lists, discord and slack we already have conversations happening in 3 places. I'm not excited. about a 4th.
I would agree... if anything was happening in on -planning or discord.
Why don't we wait and see if there's a problem before prematurely solving it?
- Phil
FYI to this group.
The general consensus on both -planning and -chairs has been to keep things to the mailing list, so I've gone ahead and disabled the Discussions.
On 8/11/22 08:45, Phil Dibowitz wrote:
On 8/11/22 05:00, Ilan Rabinovitch wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 7:20 PM David Lang <david@lang.hm mailto:david@lang.hm> wrote:
having two different channels for communications guarantees that people will miss discussions happening on the other channel.
This is my primary concern. Between mailing lists, discord and slack we already have conversations happening in 3 places. I'm not excited. about a 4th.
I would agree... if anything was happening in on -planning or discord.
Why don't we wait and see if there's a problem before prematurely solving it?
- Phil
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